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		<title>By: The Trading Digest &#187; Blog Archive &#187; This is not elitetrader.com</title>
		<link>http://thetradingdigest.com/blog/2007/06/29/those-who-cant-or-wont-criticize/#comment-3114</link>
		<dc:creator>The Trading Digest &#187; Blog Archive &#187; This is not elitetrader.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 16:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] instances where the same person attempts to post multiple comments under different names about our post a few months ago relating to Timothy Sykes new book.Â Â  I&#8217;ve already responded to their [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] instances where the same person attempts to post multiple comments under different names about our post a few months ago relating to Timothy Sykes new book.Â Â  I&#8217;ve already responded to their [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://thetradingdigest.com/blog/2007/06/29/those-who-cant-or-wont-criticize/#comment-3095</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 23:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Steve" - 

I find it interesting you have the same IP as "Bob Cohen" and a very similar email address.   Please note that this is not elitetrader and we will start banning your comments if you continue trying to spam.

- John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Steve&#8221; - </p>
<p>I find it interesting you have the same IP as &#8220;Bob Cohen&#8221; and a very similar email address.   Please note that this is not elitetrader and we will start banning your comments if you continue trying to spam.</p>
<p>- John</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Lapat</title>
		<link>http://thetradingdigest.com/blog/2007/06/29/those-who-cant-or-wont-criticize/#comment-3068</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Lapat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 18:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also read Sykes book and was psyched when I started, but was quite disappointed by the time I got done. Nothing really new or earth shattering in it. I got it for free so it wasnt so bad.....but wouldnt pay 20 bucks for it. Much better "reads" out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also read Sykes book and was psyched when I started, but was quite disappointed by the time I got done. Nothing really new or earth shattering in it. I got it for free so it wasnt so bad&#8230;..but wouldnt pay 20 bucks for it. Much better &#8220;reads&#8221; out there.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://thetradingdigest.com/blog/2007/06/29/those-who-cant-or-wont-criticize/#comment-2884</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 23:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob,

Your comment doesn't make any sense to me.  Tims book is not, nor ever claims to be a "how-to trading" book.  It is basically an autobiography with an emphasis on his dealing s in the market.  "Snake Oil" is when someone trys to sell something that doesn't work, most often in this context people selling "systems" guaranteed to win 98.5% of the time or something like that.  

Tim is simply selling a book that tells the story of his life up until now.  It's not recommending a certain trading style, or preaching about chart patterns or trying to pump a system that he's selling on his website.  It's just his story, nothing less, nothing more.  

Now you can definetly say you found the story boring, or didn't like his writing style or something like that, but to call an autobiography "Snake Oil" is just nonsensical.

- John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob,</p>
<p>Your comment doesn&#8217;t make any sense to me.  Tims book is not, nor ever claims to be a &#8220;how-to trading&#8221; book.  It is basically an autobiography with an emphasis on his dealing s in the market.  &#8220;Snake Oil&#8221; is when someone trys to sell something that doesn&#8217;t work, most often in this context people selling &#8220;systems&#8221; guaranteed to win 98.5% of the time or something like that.  </p>
<p>Tim is simply selling a book that tells the story of his life up until now.  It&#8217;s not recommending a certain trading style, or preaching about chart patterns or trying to pump a system that he&#8217;s selling on his website.  It&#8217;s just his story, nothing less, nothing more.  </p>
<p>Now you can definetly say you found the story boring, or didn&#8217;t like his writing style or something like that, but to call an autobiography &#8220;Snake Oil&#8221; is just nonsensical.</p>
<p>- John</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Cohen</title>
		<link>http://thetradingdigest.com/blog/2007/06/29/those-who-cant-or-wont-criticize/#comment-2883</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Cohen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 17:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Lucky Idiot/Sykes has his Luck Run-Out"

I've read the advance copy of Sykes "book". DO NOT BUY THAT SNAKE OIL CRAP unless you like seeing a hyper idiot self-destruct......

Nothing of value in this book for any serious professional....

His "Fund" is down over -36% since Jan2006.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Lucky Idiot/Sykes has his Luck Run-Out&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read the advance copy of Sykes &#8220;book&#8221;. DO NOT BUY THAT SNAKE OIL CRAP unless you like seeing a hyper idiot self-destruct&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Nothing of value in this book for any serious professional&#8230;.</p>
<p>His &#8220;Fund&#8221; is down over -36% since Jan2006.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaplan Accounting</title>
		<link>http://thetradingdigest.com/blog/2007/06/29/those-who-cant-or-wont-criticize/#comment-2591</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaplan Accounting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 15:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BEWARE: Never Trust Tim with your MONEY!!

Cilantro/Sykes Hedge Fund Audited Performance SUCKS BIG TIME (3/2003-6/2007):

Compounded Annual Return: 1.52% (underperformed money market rates, with much higher risk; better to buy CD's than lose with Tim)

Cilantro/Sykes Fund Sharpe Ratio (Annualized): -0.06 
(may as well bet on coin flips; or do as Tim Sykes and sell out and go on TV/self-publish etc)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BEWARE: Never Trust Tim with your MONEY!!</p>
<p>Cilantro/Sykes Hedge Fund Audited Performance SUCKS BIG TIME (3/2003-6/2007):</p>
<p>Compounded Annual Return: 1.52% (underperformed money market rates, with much higher risk; better to buy CD&#8217;s than lose with Tim)</p>
<p>Cilantro/Sykes Fund Sharpe Ratio (Annualized): -0.06<br />
(may as well bet on coin flips; or do as Tim Sykes and sell out and go on TV/self-publish etc)</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://thetradingdigest.com/blog/2007/06/29/those-who-cant-or-wont-criticize/#comment-2031</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 23:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SSP,

"I donâ€™t deny that he made a great amount of money at a young age. Following it up by creating the vehicle that is a hedge fund isnâ€™t bad either."

That's all I was trying to say, Tim did an excellent job turning a small amount of money into a large amount of money in a very short term and followed it up be creating a hedge fund.  Nothing more, nothing less.  None of my post was about credit or what people "think" of you, it's about actually going out and getting stuff done which Tim has shown a great ability to do.  All the "credit" in the world won't buy a thing.  Making over a million dollars in the market will.

- John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SSP,</p>
<p>&#8220;I donâ€™t deny that he made a great amount of money at a young age. Following it up by creating the vehicle that is a hedge fund isnâ€™t bad either.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s all I was trying to say, Tim did an excellent job turning a small amount of money into a large amount of money in a very short term and followed it up be creating a hedge fund.  Nothing more, nothing less.  None of my post was about credit or what people &#8220;think&#8221; of you, it&#8217;s about actually going out and getting stuff done which Tim has shown a great ability to do.  All the &#8220;credit&#8221; in the world won&#8217;t buy a thing.  Making over a million dollars in the market will.</p>
<p>- John</p>
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		<title>By: ETLover</title>
		<link>http://thetradingdigest.com/blog/2007/06/29/those-who-cant-or-wont-criticize/#comment-2026</link>
		<dc:creator>ETLover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 20:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hahah, glad to see the ET debate about Tim is so viral! I've read a few positive reviews about Tim's book now so I'm very much looking forward to October. Tim has said his recent losses have taught him much, I hope he can pass those lessons on</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahah, glad to see the ET debate about Tim is so viral! I&#8217;ve read a few positive reviews about Tim&#8217;s book now so I&#8217;m very much looking forward to October. Tim has said his recent losses have taught him much, I hope he can pass those lessons on</p>
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		<title>By: SSP</title>
		<link>http://thetradingdigest.com/blog/2007/06/29/those-who-cant-or-wont-criticize/#comment-2024</link>
		<dc:creator>SSP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 19:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Tim made an incredible amount of money at a very young age and then had the work ethic to actually get his results audited and create a hedge fund. Heâ€™s followed that up by writing a book and publishing it himself. These are excellent accomplishments for someone his age that stand on their own and are not related to recent fund performance at all. "

I don't deny that he made a great amount of money at a young age.  Following it up by creating the vehicle that is a hedge fund isn't bad either. 

Let's be fair, having not made a compound return in 4 years would make most in Tim's position attempt to exploit his 15 minute minutes of fame in some way, whether by writing a book or working to make appearances on CNBC.  If Tim could make a buck he would, but apparently he can't via trading so he has to try other avenues.  I think you're giving someone in Tim's credit far too much credit.  This is like a has-been actor doing informercials, what choice do they have but to attempt to exploit what little they have left? 

Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Tim made an incredible amount of money at a very young age and then had the work ethic to actually get his results audited and create a hedge fund. Heâ€™s followed that up by writing a book and publishing it himself. These are excellent accomplishments for someone his age that stand on their own and are not related to recent fund performance at all. &#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t deny that he made a great amount of money at a young age.  Following it up by creating the vehicle that is a hedge fund isn&#8217;t bad either. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s be fair, having not made a compound return in 4 years would make most in Tim&#8217;s position attempt to exploit his 15 minute minutes of fame in some way, whether by writing a book or working to make appearances on CNBC.  If Tim could make a buck he would, but apparently he can&#8217;t via trading so he has to try other avenues.  I think you&#8217;re giving someone in Tim&#8217;s credit far too much credit.  This is like a has-been actor doing informercials, what choice do they have but to attempt to exploit what little they have left? </p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://thetradingdigest.com/blog/2007/06/29/those-who-cant-or-wont-criticize/#comment-2023</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 18:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SSP,

I think you misunderstood my post.  My point was that it doesn't matter if you make your money through luck or skill, since even in hindsight the two are often intertwined.  Regardless of your skill level, you almost always need a little luck for things to work out.

Tim made an incredible amount of money at a very young age and then had the work ethic to actually get his results audited and create a hedge fund.  He's followed that up by writing a book and publishing it himself.  These are excellent accomplishments for someone his age that stand on their own and are not related to recent fund performance at all.  

- John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SSP,</p>
<p>I think you misunderstood my post.  My point was that it doesn&#8217;t matter if you make your money through luck or skill, since even in hindsight the two are often intertwined.  Regardless of your skill level, you almost always need a little luck for things to work out.</p>
<p>Tim made an incredible amount of money at a very young age and then had the work ethic to actually get his results audited and create a hedge fund.  He&#8217;s followed that up by writing a book and publishing it himself.  These are excellent accomplishments for someone his age that stand on their own and are not related to recent fund performance at all.  </p>
<p>- John</p>
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		<title>By: SSP</title>
		<link>http://thetradingdigest.com/blog/2007/06/29/those-who-cant-or-wont-criticize/#comment-2021</link>
		<dc:creator>SSP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why don't you mention that Tims fund has made a whopping 1.5% compounded return for the last 4 years?  That's why people call his earlier streak of money-making luck.  Do you call a 600 lbs man who lost 200 lbs in 1998-2003 a weight loss genius if he's been unable to lose another 200 lbs since and still weighs 400 lbs.?  

If you do, your credibility should be questioned as you're  making a comparable mistake in lauding Tim's gains, or lack of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t you mention that Tims fund has made a whopping 1.5% compounded return for the last 4 years?  That&#8217;s why people call his earlier streak of money-making luck.  Do you call a 600 lbs man who lost 200 lbs in 1998-2003 a weight loss genius if he&#8217;s been unable to lose another 200 lbs since and still weighs 400 lbs.?  </p>
<p>If you do, your credibility should be questioned as you&#8217;re  making a comparable mistake in lauding Tim&#8217;s gains, or lack of.</p>
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		<title>By: The Trading Digest &#187; Blog Archive &#187; An American Hedge Fund book review</title>
		<link>http://thetradingdigest.com/blog/2007/06/29/those-who-cant-or-wont-criticize/#comment-2017</link>
		<dc:creator>The Trading Digest &#187; Blog Archive &#187; An American Hedge Fund book review</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 12:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] just finished reading Timothy Sykes (more on the author here), &#8220;An American Hedge Fund&#8221;, which is an autobiography that reads more like a modern day [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] just finished reading Timothy Sykes (more on the author here), &#8220;An American Hedge Fund&#8221;, which is an autobiography that reads more like a modern day [...]</p>
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		<title>By: More Good to Go&#8217;s for the Weekend Reading Pile . . . &#171; Trading for the Masses</title>
		<link>http://thetradingdigest.com/blog/2007/06/29/those-who-cant-or-wont-criticize/#comment-1894</link>
		<dc:creator>More Good to Go&#8217;s for the Weekend Reading Pile . . . &#171; Trading for the Masses</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] IT works for you and your trading then it must be a good [...]</description>
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		<title>By: TJ</title>
		<link>http://thetradingdigest.com/blog/2007/06/29/those-who-cant-or-wont-criticize/#comment-1891</link>
		<dc:creator>TJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 12:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post!! The majority of posters on ET are little children--</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post!! The majority of posters on ET are little children&#8211;</p>
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